Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site dciem.UUCP Path: utzoo!dciem!mmt From: mmt@dciem.UUCP (Martin Taylor) Newsgroups: net.abortion Subject: Re: alternatives...(population stress reactions) Message-ID: <886@dciem.UUCP> Date: Mon, 23-Apr-84 17:00:01 EST Article-I.D.: dciem.886 Posted: Mon Apr 23 17:00:01 1984 Date-Received: Mon, 23-Apr-84 19:14:04 EST References: <19425@wivax.UUCP> Organization: D.C.I.E.M., Toronto, Canada Lines: 28 ================== Martin Taylor is surely being facetious when he attempts to link the modern practice of abortion to population pressures! Even given the neo-Malthusian problems in his argument, I find it hard to accept the idea that most modern (middle-class, urban, working) women are aborting fetuses for reasons of overpopulation (overcrowding in their condos, perhaps?) ================== No, I wasn't being facetious, but then neither was I suggesting that individuals consider population pressures when contemplating abortion. I proposed a hypothesis to the effect that the human species might react in the way other species react to population pressures, and that this might be a reason abortion and infanticide tends to happen under stress. How that is expressed in the perceived rationale of any individual is quite a different question. There are many other physiological and psychological reactions to stress in other species; why not in humans? Stress changes body chemistry, and hence behaviour. I suspect that we would treat each other VERY differently (and much more gently) in the absence of population stress, and that includes our treatment of children, both born and unborn. Please don't confuse hypotheses suggested for possible test with prescriptions for what behaviour should be considered ethical. -- Martin Taylor {allegra,linus,ihnp4,uw-beaver,floyd,ubc-vision}!utzoo!dciem!mmt