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From: saquigley@watmath.UUCP (Sophie Quigley)
Newsgroups: net.abortion
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Date: Thu, 26-Apr-84 11:07:37 EST
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Posted: Thu Apr 26 11:07:37 1984
Date-Received: Fri, 27-Apr-84 03:12:34 EST
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Hey, people!!!  have you noticed how most of the people discussing
abortion in this newsgroup will never get pregnant.  This is probably
the reason why such topics which are INTIMATELY related to abortion,
such as the right of people to control their own bodies, and the 
misery of going through an unwanted pregnancy have been completely avoided. 
With all these discussions of whether a fetus is human and of population
control, nobody cares about the fact that one of the reasons a woman might
want an abortion is that she does not want to be pregnant.

I would say that the most common reason for getting an abortion is that
one doesn't want to take care of a child, and the second most common
is that one doesn't want to be pregnant.  Yes folks, you seem to be
forgetting someone in all your discussions: the mother.  Babys, embryos
do not develop magically in nine months in some dark alley.  They are
living in some woman's belly and does not let her forget it.  They
develop by using up many of the mother's resources which she has to
take care to provide otherwise she will lose them in her own body.
Being pregnant is a lot of work!!!!!!! some of the discomforts involve:
nausea and vomiting, constipation, heartburn, increased heart rate,
nosebleeds, light-headedness and dizziness, Varicose veins and hemorrhoids,
shortness of breath, urinary frequency, breast swelling, vaginal discharge,
mild abdominal pains, orthopedic problems, leg cramps and pains, swelling
of ankles, insomnia, eye problems, dental problems, itchiness and dryness
of skin, decalcification, psychological changes.  When you add on all the
discomforts and potential dangers in giving birth, you can get a clear
picture of it.  Of course many women who do want their child enjoy pregnancy
as the excitment of a new life developping and the anticipation of having
a child greatly balance out these problems.  When the child is not wanted
though, there is nothing to balance out these problems and pregnancy is only
misery, misery at being in such a disturbed physical shape, misery at the
prospects of taking care of a child one didn't want in the first place, or
misery at the prospect of giving up a child one wants but cannot take care
of, that one has had growing in ones own body but that one will have to
give to strangers never to see it again in our WHOLE LIFE.

Yeah, it is selfish to prefer an abortion to adoption.  How many of you people
claiming that have nurtured a child in your belly for nmine months to give
it away to strangers?  Can you start to begin to maybe imagine to try to figure
out how that would feel, going through those nine months of feeling your child 
growing inside you, then not having your baby around while your body is happily
oozing out milk.  Knowing that if your baby is black or hispanic or whatever,
it is not necessarily better where it is then had it been with you because
people don't really want THOSE babys, so in all probability it is stuck in some
institution somwhere , and even if you are not black or hispanic, not knowing
how the child is, knowing that it will grow up to hate you for having abandonned
it even though you did that out of love, so that it could have a nicer life. 
There are no clean solutions, there is suffering and misery involved at each
corner in an unwanted pregnancy.  Sometime the suffering is too great and
abortion is the solution which involves the least suffering.  It certainly is
on the physical side, it is much less dangerous for a woman to have an abortion
performed by well-trained people, then it is to go through pregnancy.  The
emotional side is different, but my guess is that the only person who can really
decide what one can handle emotionally and one cannot is oneself.

Yes, this is emotional and this is a flame; but abortions are performed often
for emotional reasons, and I think all you discussers deserve to be flamed at
for being so insensitive to the mother's point of view, and for acting as 
though the only person involved in the growth of the embryo is the embryo
itself.

Sophie Quigley
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