Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site ccieng5.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!harpo!seismo!rochester!ritcv!ccieng5!jbf From: jbf@ccieng5.UUCP (Jens Bernhard Fiederer) Newsgroups: net.abortion Subject: Re: Ethics vs. the Natural Order Message-ID: <403@ccieng5.UUCP> Date: Thu, 26-Apr-84 18:57:00 EST Article-I.D.: ccieng5.403 Posted: Thu Apr 26 18:57:00 1984 Date-Received: Sat, 28-Apr-84 09:22:19 EST References: <393@ccieng5.UUCP>, <174@hercules.UUCP> Organization: CCI Central Engineering, Rochester, NY Lines: 20 >In a system of ethics "based on the natural order," killing for no apparent >reason would be considered the norm. Check into Jane Goodall's (sp?) account >of the war waged within the chimpanzee group she has spent so many years >observing. Do you really want to live in that kind of a society????? The system of ethics should be based on the natural order. I suppose that needs a certain amount of explication. I never said people should strive to imitate chimpanzees. There may be certain differences. Most humans do not want to live in a society of random killing (I must confess this is pure speculation -- I have little statistical support for that statement besides the laws against murder -- but most people do want to drive over 55 (this follows from observation on highways) and there are laws against it anyway), so it seems natural to pass laws to protect ourselves. This seems natural enough to me, but entirely amoral. Birbal -- "Some people are eccentric, but I am just plain odd" Reachable as ....allegra![rayssd,rlgvax]!ccieng5!jbf