Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!floyd!harpo!ihnp4!zehntel!hplabs!sri-unix!DBrown@HI-MULTICS From: DBrown%HI-MULTICS@sri-unix.UUCP Newsgroups: net.ai Subject: Re: Stolfo's call for discussion Message-ID: <552@sri-arpa.UUCP> Date: Thu, 5-Apr-84 10:49:00 EST Article-I.D.: sri-arpa.552 Posted: Thu Apr 5 10:49:00 1984 Date-Received: Wed, 11-Apr-84 06:20:14 EST Lines: 15 From: Dave Brown A side point about Louis Steinberg's response: The accepted wisdom is actually that AI and plain commercial programming has shown that specification in complete detail is really just mindless hacking, by a designer rather than a hack. *However* the salesmen of "software engineering methodologies" are just getting up to about 1968 (the first sw eng conference), and are flogging the idea that perfect specifications are possible and desirable. Therefore the state of practice lags behing the state of the art an unconsciousable distance.... AI leads the way, as usual. --dave (software engineering ::= brilliance | utter stupidity) brown