Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site sjuvax.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!akgua!psuvax!burdvax!sjuvax!bbanerje From: bbanerje@sjuvax.UUCP (B. Banerjee) Newsgroups: net.ai Subject: Re: Use of "and" Message-ID: <254@sjuvax.UUCP> Date: Thu, 12-Apr-84 18:51:48 EST Article-I.D.: sjuvax.254 Posted: Thu Apr 12 18:51:48 1984 Date-Received: Sun, 15-Apr-84 05:45:44 EST References: <551@sri-arpa.UUCP> Organization: Saint Josephs Univ. Phila., Pa. Lines: 52 >> There is another way of looking at the statement - >> all customers in Indiana and Ohio >> which seems simpler to me than producing the new phrase - >> all customers in Indiana AND all customers in Ohio >> instead of doing this why not treat Indiana and Ohio as a new single >> conceptual entity giving - >> all customers in (Indiana and Ohio). >> >> This seems simpler to me. It would mean the database would have to >> allow aggregations of this type, but I don't see that as being >> particularly problematic. >> >> Jim Cowie. My admittedly inconsequential contribution to this. all customers in Indiana AND all customers in Ohio seems to want the following : (Pardon the Notation!) [all customers such that | {customer C- Indiana} XOR {customer C- Ohio} ] This seems to be described best as [all customers such that | customer C- {Indiana U Ohio - (Indiana (~) Ohio)} ] Assuming that no customer can be in Indiana and Ohio simultaneously, the intersection of the sets would be NULL. Thus we would have [all customers such that | customer C- {Indiana U Ohio} ] Here, Indiana and Ohio correspond to sets of base type customer. C- denotes set membership and (~) is intended to denote set intersection. So far so good. However, the normal sense of an AND as I understand it, corresponds to a set intersection. The formulation is therefore counter-intutive. I'm not an AI type, so I would appreciate being set straight. Flames will be cheerfully ignored. Regards, -- Binayak Banerjee {allegra | astrovax | bpa | burdvax}!sjuvax!bbanerje