Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site opus.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxl!eagle!harpo!seismo!hao!cires!nbires!opus!rcd From: rcd@opus.UUCP Newsgroups: net.audio Subject: Fletcher-Munson curves obsolete? Message-ID: <273@opus.UUCP> Date: Sat, 24-Mar-84 03:49:11 EST Article-I.D.: opus.273 Posted: Sat Mar 24 03:49:11 1984 Date-Received: Sun, 25-Mar-84 13:38:32 EST Organization: NBI, Boulder Lines: 36 <+> I have a manual for a piece of audio equipment which criticizes loudness compensation circuits in preamps "...because they are based on the obsolete Fletcher-Munson curves and produce excessive mid-bass boost..." [Background, for general interest: The "Fletcher-Munson" curves are a presentation of empirical data which show curves of equal perceived loudness on a plot of sound pressure level (acoustic power) vs. frequency. (Say wha?...) For example, using a 1KHz reference they show that a 60 dB sound at 1KHz sounds as loud as roughly 70 dB at 100 Hz or as 57 dB at 3KHz - thus one constant-loudness curve passes through these three points. Each curve has a characteristic shape which shows that the ear is most sensitive around 3KHz and loses sensitivity at higher and lower frequencies according to a particular pattern. The family of curves shows how the differential sensitivity to frequencies changes with sound level, becoming less pronounced at higher levels. End of digression.] Now the question: If these curves are obsolete, can someone please tell me WHY they are obsolete - is the data wrong, was it presented wrong, or has it been consistently misinterpreted? Here's the reason I'm asking - I'm wondering if people have built "loudness controls" with contours which mirror a F-M curve for some particular loudness level. If so, they've obviously misinterpreted the data; the control contour should be based on the variation in shape of the F-M curves for different levels. Example: If you have music recorded at a typical 90dB SPL but you want to play it back at a typical 60dB level, the contour you want is one which will boost bass and treble so that the system response (system = loudness control + ear) has the shape of the 90 dB curve at 60 dB - NOT one which will give FLAT system (control+ear) response at 60 dB. On the other hand, if there is something fundamentally wrong with the F-M data, I'd like to make some careful notes about it in my copy of Beranek's "Acoustics" book. -- {hao,ucbvax,allegra}!nbires!rcd