Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site allegra.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!floyd!harpo!ulysses!allegra!karn From: karn@allegra.UUCP (Phil Karn) Newsgroups: net.audio Subject: Re: CD phase shift question Message-ID: <2394@allegra.UUCP> Date: Wed, 11-Apr-84 02:48:14 EST Article-I.D.: allegra.2394 Posted: Wed Apr 11 02:48:14 1984 Date-Received: Thu, 12-Apr-84 04:42:36 EST References: <920@drufl.UUCP> Organization: Bell Communications Research, Inc Lines: 22 Sure, filters can shift phase by as many degrees as they like. Filters which do this as a linear function of frequency with zero phase shift at zero frequency are called "linear phase" and pass all signal components with equal delay related to the slope of this phase shift characteristic. If the filter also passes all frequencies with equal amplitude, then it is called a "delay line". Whatever waveform goes in comes out exactly the same sometime later. As long as this is done equally in both channels you cannot call it "distortion", as the same effect is achieved by hitting the "play" button on your CD a few microseconds later... One of the characteristics of high-order filters is that they introduce more and more delay. This is mathematically necessary in order to more closely approximate an ideal filter, which of course would be "non causal", i.e., respond before it saw an input, which of course is impossible in the real world (net.misc excepted.) Bessel filters are just much more careful about making this delay constant over all frequencies than other filters, and in fact Bessel filters improve with increasing order while most other filters get worse. Phil