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From: jj@rabbit.UUCP
Newsgroups: net.audio
Subject: Extra speakers, and rude assumptions
Message-ID: <2695@rabbit.UUCP>
Date: Wed, 11-Apr-84 10:05:05 EST
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Posted: Wed Apr 11 10:05:05 1984
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>Let's hear it for all the broad-minded folks on the net.

Like you, maybe?

>So far we've got:
>
>	rabbit!jj commenting on psycho-acoustics without
>	trying the experiment.

Says who, buster?  I do work in psycho-acoustics (and not just for
speech, Tom) for a living.  (also digital methods of other 
sorts that I can't mention.) If you look at the header of my articles,
or if you read net.audio, that's clear.  Where do YOU get off with the
ideas about who does what experiments?  I didn't try the
one on the net, as it was so poorly formed that it couldn't
work.  <Ever hear of double-blind? How about even SINGLE blind?>	
I HAVE run similar experiments, both with my stereo at home,
although in a blind fashion (which is a better way to do it),
and with slightly different basis, at work.  (yes, the
results apply, Larry.)
Have you ever considered that there might be a few INFORMED
opinions in this newsgroup?

To put it in YOUR phrasing:
	 Larry Tepper, who tells me what I have and haven't
done, without ANY knowledge whatsoever of what I can, have,
am, or will do.

>	tannenbaum's sarcastic reply about running the test
>	using his Rabbit GTI's radiator as the passive
>	radiator, without trying the experiment.

How do YOU know?   Can you predict what an AI project does?
Perhaps you forget the meaning and uses of satire?

>	hplabsc!labelle's attempted insult of winograd's
>	technical knowledge -- without trying the experiment.
>

Attempted?  Must have succeeded, seems to me.  (You're certainly
upset.)

>Ok, to cover my butt, maybe you DID try the experiment, but
>just forgot to post your results.

No, I didn't forget,  such things are covered in the literature
fairly well, if you go look.  No, I won't bother to post references,
you clearly don't want facts, anyhow, and I have valuable
work to do.

>If you're really that interested in proving him wrong, try the
>bleeping experiment and let us know how it went.
>	Larry Tepper - Storage Technology (disk division)
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Please post an apology to net.audio, and all further articles to net.flame,
at least until you decide to be civil once again.

Radar detectors indeed!  bah!

Don't go out in the woods without a compass, Larry!
-- 
TEDDY BEARS ARE NICER THAN PEOPLE--HUG YOURS TODAY!
(If you go out in the woods today ... )
 
(allegra,harpo,ulysses)!rabbit!jj