Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site whuxj.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxl!houxm!whuxl!whuxj!wjm From: wjm@whuxj.UUCP (MITCHELL) Newsgroups: net.audio Subject: Re:Re: Denon Recordings Message-ID: <205@whuxj.UUCP> Date: Fri, 27-Apr-84 09:25:08 EST Article-I.D.: whuxj.205 Posted: Fri Apr 27 09:25:08 1984 Date-Received: Sat, 28-Apr-84 09:52:38 EST Organization: Bell Labs, Whippany, N.J. Lines: 38 In reply to Yosi Hoshen's question, I believe the catalog number of the Denon Rampal recording I disliked is OX-7027-ND (as I mentioned earlier, this is the LP version - I don't know the CD catalog number (but I suspect the 7027 suffix will remain in it) Yes, record companies using the Soundstream system (with its 50 KHz sampling rate) have to reduce the data rate to 44.1 KHz for CD's and digital processing techniques are used here. This would not be a factor in my comparisons, since I've been using LP versions of all the recordings for this purpose. Again, this may be a matter of taste, but I have not found the Telarc Malcolm Frager Plays Chopin recording (LP version DG-10040) that objectionable. I will agree that the Bosendorfer is a bit overpowering for most of the piano repetroire, especially the Beethoven sonatas, and agree that a Steinway is much more appropriate (there are some new Alfred Brendel recordings on Phillips that are excellent - they are digitally mastered but I don't know if they've been released on CD yet). However, I prefer the power on some of the "larger" Chopin works on this recording. Sorry for the confusion, I did not intend to imply that all the record companies I listed (including Nonesuch) used the Soundstream system - Nonesuch does use a JVC system - just that I found their digital recordings preferable to Denon's. Telarc and Delos use the Soundstream system, I am not sure which system some of the others use - I think London may use Soundstream but I cannot say for sure about the other PolyGram labels. I was also disappointed in the Nonesuch Boston Symphony Chamber Players Schubert Octet recording (LP version) for the same reason. I'm not sure whether net.audio or net.records is a better place to post bouquets and/or brickbats about specific recordings although I think comments about record companies in general and CD's LP's or tapes in general belong on net.audio - you can, of course, post to both. Unfortunately, CBS's so called "audiophile" digital LP's are no better than their other LP's and are noisy, often warped, and subjected to the usual CBS multi-mike treatment which resorts in very unclear sound. I would suspect that CD's could solve the noise and warp problems, but won't fix their sonic problems - I try not to buy CBS recordings, but when an artist I like has an exclusive contract with them, what can one do? Bill Mitchell Bell Communications Research, Inc. Whippany, NJ (whuxj!wjm)