Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 3/23/84; site cbosgd.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!harpo!ihnp4!cbosgd!mark From: mark@cbosgd.UUCP (Mark Horton) Newsgroups: net.consumers,net.auto Subject: Re: Chrysler Arbitration-Unhappy Unending Message-ID: <1217@cbosgd.UUCP> Date: Tue, 3-Apr-84 17:13:37 EST Article-I.D.: cbosgd.1217 Posted: Tue Apr 3 17:13:37 1984 Date-Received: Thu, 5-Apr-84 03:31:59 EST References: <629@u1100a.UUCP> <8245@mgweed.UUCP> Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories, Columbus Lines: 25 As I understand it, American Volkswagens aren't any prize, either. Or did the German ones go downhill too? I can echo strong enthusiasm for the Ohio built Accords. From what I've been able to determine, they are identical to the Japanese ones, with one trivial exception (I think it was the brand of tires or something like that.) But the reason for this is that the Honda plant in Marysville uses Japanese management techniques (and American non-union workers). If the UAW ever get a foot in the Honda door, it would probably be all over, since the management techniques wouldn't work anymore. One word of caution, however. Honda dealers have now apparently joined the ranks of Toyota dealers in price gouging. I was one this morning, and looked at the stickers of the new cars. A typical sticker showed a base price of, say, 7300, and there was a dealer added sticker that showed the price "delivered in Columbus" at 7800. They then proceeded to add about $2000 worth of packs: rustproofing, air conditioning, and so on. The import quotas keep the supply down so far that they can ask any price they want. You would think there would be plenty of 4 door Accords (that's all they build in Marysville) but that plant is scaling up production very slowly and today (over a year since it opened) is still only producing at about 2/3 the claimed capacity. So Accords are just as scarce as Civics.