Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 exptools 1/6/84; site ihuxn.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!floyd!harpo!ihnp4!ihuxn!res From: res@ihuxn.UUCP (Rich Strebendt) Newsgroups: net.auto Subject: Badmouthing American-built cars Message-ID: <610@ihuxn.UUCP> Date: Thu, 5-Apr-84 11:50:26 EST Article-I.D.: ihuxn.610 Posted: Thu Apr 5 11:50:26 1984 Date-Received: Sat, 7-Apr-84 02:55:39 EST Organization: AT&T Bell Labs, Naperville, IL Lines: 59 I am getting a bit hacked off at the sophomoric bad-mouthing of American designed and built cars. I am tired of the attitude that, if the car has a German or Japanese name, it is perfect, but, if it has an American name, it is trash. I have owned six cars thus far, with another on order. One was European, the others all were American. My comments on them: The first car I owned was a Renault Caravel. It lasted me a whole year of commuting to school. I traded it in at about 50000 miles (obviously, I bought it used). At that point, if I floored it, I could get up to about 10mph in a block or two. Maintaining it just about ate me alive. My next was a used '64 Ford with a small 6-cylinder engine in a full sized car. I got several good years of service from it and traded it in at around 80000 miles. It was in need of major engine work at that time and I did not want to mess with it. My next car was a new '69 Cougar. That was a real fun/luxury car, built on a Mustang chassis a couple of years before the Cougar became an Elephant. Most Major Repair: Patching up a leak in the radiator. It did come with a defect (a vent that would not close completely) that took several trips back to the dealer to partially fix. That dealer, incidently, is no longer in business. At 78000 miles I traded it in. During this same time I was married and thereby acquired access to an AMC Rambler. This was not a glamorous car, but was very dependable. We kept it past its 10th birthday, then sold it to a person who needed a dependable car to get back and forth to work. The next car was an Olds Cutlass. Most Major Problem: A leak in the radiator at about 50000 miles. Great car. Traded it in at about 76000 miles. We now have a Pontiac Phoenix of 1981 vintage. Fabulous car. Most Major Problems to date: Leak in the heater core and a shorted diode in the alternator. The first problem occurred at around 30000 miles, the second just lately at 41000. We dislike GM cars so rabidly [:-)] that we have just ordered a Pontiac Sunbird/2000 LE and are eagerly awaiting its delivery. I expect to get the car we wanted, without "mandatory options" or a jacked up price tag. The price we are paying is well under the sticker price, not OVER it. I cannot bad-mouth Japanese or German (or English or Italian or ... ) cars since I have not owned any. I can say that I have been quite pleased with the Ford and GM products I have owned over the last roughly 15 years. Yes, some individual cars have problems, and some models have problems (eg: VW's with oil seal problems). This is NOT to say that ALL products by ALL manufacturers of a particular nationality are trash. I, for one, intend to keep looking for the best VALUE I can find in a new car. I do not think at this time that over-priced imports provide that VALUE. Rich Strebendt ...!ihnp4!ihuxn!res