Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site uw-june Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!akgua!mcnc!decvax!harpo!ihnp4!zehntel!hplabs!tektronix!uw-beaver!uw-june!emma From: emma@uw-june (Joe Pfeiffer) Newsgroups: net.auto Subject: Re: Sticker Price vs. Dealer Cost ... Message-ID: <1284@uw-june> Date: Fri, 20-Apr-84 12:15:32 EST Article-I.D.: uw-june.1284 Posted: Fri Apr 20 12:15:32 1984 Date-Received: Sun, 22-Apr-84 09:32:30 EST References: <737@houxm.UUCP> Organization: U. Washington, Computer Sci Lines: 22 I've been seeing enough about Consumer Reports recently that I think I'd better say something. We had a discussion about that magazine in this forum about a year ago. The most important thing to recognize is that they know nothing about cars. Remember they once declared the Omni "Unacceptable" because when driving at 50 mph, turning the wheel hard over, and releasing it, the car didn't recover by itself. They once ran a comparison test between a Toyota Celica, a Dodge Charger, a Ford Mustang, and a Chevy Camaro. Since the Dodge had a 4, they tried to make the test fair by running the 4-cylinder engines in the Ford (not the turbo 4) and the Chevy. Their repair ratings, which I referred to then as the only trustworthy information in the magazine, were mentioned by another netter as something else they get wrong. Seems they only count repair incidence, not cost to repair. So a turn signal lens that falls off counts as much as a transmission rebuild (note that for a while, they were factoring with cost. They've cut that out). At that time, I summarized by saying that I might use them to buy a toaster, but never an automobile. One of the responses I got then was from a person who had complaints about their toaster evaluations. -Joe P.