Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site oliven.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!harpo!seismo!hao!hplabs!oliveb!olivee!oliven!chrisp From: chrisp@oliven.UUCP Newsgroups: net.auto Subject: Who is Liable?! Message-ID: <131@oliven.UUCP> Date: Fri, 27-Apr-84 13:44:22 EST Article-I.D.: oliven.131 Posted: Fri Apr 27 13:44:22 1984 Date-Received: Sat, 28-Apr-84 11:05:14 EST Organization: Olivetti ATC, Cupertino, Ca Lines: 52 Keith Bauer's comments on the Mark Donohue and San Diego Porsche 930 liability trials implies the need for some education on the state of the torts business. First, I am in complete agreement with Keith that both trial results are totally assinine. In the Donohue case, the trial judge seems to be a major problem as he basically took away a good third of the defense on various thin excuses. (Would you believe that after 25 years as a first rank driver, Mario Andretti is not a qualified expert on the behavior of race tires?!) It seems very probable that the decesion will be voided by a higher court based simply on the massive series of decision errors by the judge. In the case with the 930, the errors seem to have been made by the defense counsel: he tried to cover up the loss of an interoffice memo on the 930's handling and got caught substituting a doctored copy of another memo. I suspect that the case cannot be retrieved. Essentially, Keith has just discovered what has been going on in liability law for the last 30 years. The prime question in any liability case in 'who has the deepest pockets' (the most money). This is known as the deep pockets doctrine. So counsel always goes after the individual (or company) that they think they can get the most money out of without regard to other factors. The next most important question is whose lawyers are how good. A trial is really a contest between the legal teams (rather like a football game). Third, you should note that juries are carefully selected to eliminate people who think. Lawyers prefer juries who react emotionally and don't use their heads. The facts of a situation come after all of the above. There was a case in Santa Cruz a few years ago in which a twerp dove off a 30 foot trestle into 4 feet of water and (surprise!) broke his fool neck. He WON his suit against Southern Pacific for 'maintaining an attractive nuisance'. Fortunately the decision was thrown out when the sole witness told SP that he had obtained a small honorarium for his appearance on the stand. (A sane result for the wrong reason.) And that is why we all have the questionable pleasure of compensating blatent idiots for the fruits of their irresponsibility! You should note that nearly all of the truely rich lawyers are liability lawyers. This is because virtually all liability suits are payed on a 'contingency' basis: 40% of the award goes to the lawyer. It doesn't pay to have turkeys enjoy the fruits of their stupidity! The only way that I can see to correct this mess is to get your state to legally ban contingency fees. And good luck! The fight to do this is would be long, hard and expensive because most state legislators are lawyers and it would close the main chance that lawyers have to get rich. (An interesting alternative would be a counter suit against plaintif's counsel on the grounds that the gamble of the contingency fee is in conflict with counsel's status as an 'officer of the court'. That would require an idealistic and good attorney as well as a lot of time and money.) No flames from this quarter, Keith. You are totally right! Chris Prael (retired driver)