Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site ssc-vax.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!harpo!seismo!hao!hplabs!tektronix!uw-beaver!ssc-vax!tjj From: tjj@ssc-vax.UUCP (T J Jardine) Newsgroups: net.aviation Subject: Altitude Deviation Violations Message-ID: <61@ssc-vax.UUCP> Date: Thu, 12-Apr-84 15:37:58 EST Article-I.D.: ssc-vax.61 Posted: Thu Apr 12 15:37:58 1984 Date-Received: Sun, 15-Apr-84 01:26:11 EST Organization: Boeing Aerospace, Seattle Lines: 27 Here in the Seattle ARTCC area we recently received a notice from the ARTCC manager regarding an ATC Operational Error Detection Program. The essence was that Seattle, along with several other ARTCC's, has recently implemented a capability in their computer software to monitor aircraft separation. The statement in the letter indicated that violations would be filed with the local FSDO/GADO office when a pilot deviates 300 or more feet from an assigned altitude. Since I'm fairly familiar with the accuracy of both computers and altitude encoders, I decided to ask the ARTCC manager for more details. It turns out that what is being filed is a notice of possible violation, and only when the altitude deviation results in less than required separation with respect to another aircraft. It's up to the FSDO/GADO Inspector to determine the cause of the deviation. Both the ARTCC manager and most of the Inspectors I know are aware of the fact that there are flight conditions which prevent a pilot of a light plane from maintaining altitude -- descending air mass with velocity that exceeds aircraft climb capability for one. I know we are all trying for safe piloting as a goal, but has anyone had any experience with this aspect of the ARTCC, either positive or negative? I can just see some pilot on a solo IFR flight in a Cessna 1x2 who deviates, is reported, and gets a GADO Inspector who won't accept any reasonable explanation. I'm not trying for paranoia, just the balance required to really make the system work. Ted Jardine CFI ASME Instruments -- TJ (with Amazing Grace) The Piper ...uw-beaver!ssc-vax!tjj