Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: nyu notesfiles V1.1 4/1/84; site acf4.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!acf4!kenner From: kenner@acf4.UUCP Newsgroups: net.consumers Subject: Re: Choice Card Usability Message-ID: <10500002@acf4.UUCP> Date: Wed, 18-Apr-84 18:56:00 EST Article-I.D.: acf4.10500002 Posted: Wed Apr 18 18:56:00 1984 Date-Received: Fri, 13-Apr-84 01:17:52 EST References: <910@hao.UUCP> Organization: New York University Lines: 33 Nf-ID: #R:hao:-91000:acf4:10500002:000:1936 Nf-From: acf4!kenner Apr 10 18:56:00 1984 I can't speak for all debit cards, but I know this is not true of the VISA card you get with a Merill Lynch CMA account. When I got my card (from Bank One of Columbus, Ohio), enclosed was a flyer explaining the standard provisions of the consumer credit law. Specifically mentioned was a limitation of liability to at most $50 if you did not notify them before the illegal usage after a theft and nothing if you did (it is my understanding, by the way, that Merill Lynch has insurance to protect against even this $50 loss). In general all provisions of the protection applied to credit cards seemed to apply. I confirmed the loss provisions with the Account Executive. When I saw the agreement with Bank One covering the VISA card, I noticed something that I thought was strange at the time. The way the CMA account works is that you have an account at Merill Lynch which is basically a standard margin securities account in which all cash balances are automatically invested in a money-market fund. As you write checks or incur VISA charges, Bank One notifies Merill Lynch daily and your account is debited (technically, shares in a money-market account are redeemed). Thus the authorization limit is the sum of all cash balance (momentary), the funds in the money-market account, and the marginable portion of all securities in the account. What the Bank One agreement said was that Bank One reserved the right to extend credit IN ADDITION to the authorization limit described above. If they did this, there would be a standard monthly charge. At the time I read this, I was wondering why Bank One which ever extend such credit. Now I think I understand. The purpose of this provision was precisely to make the card a credit card for the purposes of consumer protection. As I said, I don't know about other debit cards in other arrangments. But you should read your agreement carefully and you may find such language.