Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: $Revision: 1.6.2.13 $; site iuvax.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!we13!ihnp4!inuxc!iuvax!wickart From: wickart@iuvax.UUCP Newsgroups: net.consumers Subject: Re: CONOCO requested my SSN to issue a c Message-ID: <12700001@iuvax.UUCP> Date: Thu, 26-Apr-84 15:03:00 EST Article-I.D.: iuvax.12700001 Posted: Thu Apr 26 15:03:00 1984 Date-Received: Sat, 28-Apr-84 09:28:54 EST References: <525@ut-ngp.UUCP> Lines: 19 Nf-ID: #R:ut-ngp:-52500:iuvax:12700001:000:1148 Nf-From: iuvax!wickart Apr 26 15:03:00 1984 I have had this problem with a variety of outfits from the IN auto license bureau to pizza delivery flunkies. On applications, I simply in the SSN space with "not applicable"; I have never been denied on this basis. In person, I ask to see the person's authorization to require the number, and refuse to give it until then. I do offer alternatives, as a vendor is entitled to ID to establish your identity, but cannot require the SSN as part of that. Most places are quite happy with my driver's license # and/or a major credit card #. Several places around here have cleaned up their acts, apparently worried about the possibility of lawsuit. Only once have I had to explain legal ramifications to the next level of authority. My wife and I have obtained three jobs and six different credit cards without giving the SSN (a prospective employer isn't entitled to the # until you're hired). I would like to hear how such things have worked for others out in net-land, as I teach privacy, security, and rights in most of my CS courses. Please send mail, and I will summarize for the net. Thanks, T.F. Prune (alais Bill Wickart, ihnp4!iuvax!wickart)