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From: martillo@ihuxt.UUCP (Yehoyaqim Shemtob Martillo)
Newsgroups: net.women,net.flame
Subject: Re: Martillo's Rape Cure
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Date: Sun, 25-Mar-84 03:00:37 EST
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Posted: Sun Mar 25 03:00:37 1984
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>>Where my mother grew up (Libya) a modestly (no American woman dresses
>>modestly) dressed Muslim women did not have to worry about being raped.
>>If a woman were being attacked on the street, all the men would grab their
>>weapons and hack the attacker to pieces.  In any case, a woman would spend
>>almost all her time in the house and usually would go out on the street
>>accompanied by her father or brothers.
>
>>If women are willing to pay the price, rape can easily be eliminated.
>
>This has got to be the most offensive item that I have ever read on this
>network.  Are you seriously suggesting as a means of preventing rape that
>women:
>	1)  Stay in the house almost all the time
>	2)  Only go out accompanied by male relatives
>	3)  Wear black shapeless robes and veils??????????????????????
>	??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
>
>I suppose it is pointless to even reply to someone with a mindset capable
>of thinking that the above is a "solution" to the problem of rape.  Talk
>about a male-dominated, repressive, inhibitive society!  And why should
>the victims have to "pay the price" (as if they already don't)?????????
>Unfeeling, mindless, parochial, truly chauvinistic *ssholes like you are
>a large part of the problem!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>Go back to Libya - they deserve you.
>
>				All insults are gloriously mine and
>				have nothing to do with anybody else
>				!decvax!mcnc!unc!cm
>
>

Actually, my family left Libya partially because we despised the place
(not surprisingly because we are not Muslims). Nevertheless, Muslims have
a right to live as they wish in a country which today is 100% Muslim.  I
have never spoken to a Muslim girl who was brought up in the environment I
described because to do so would be forbidden to a male non-Muslim who is
not a doctor (my mother has several dear friends who grew up in this
environment).  But I have read the writings of several Muslim women who
grew up in this environment, attended Western Universities, and then
returned.  They generally felt themselves to be free and considered
Western women oppressed partially because of the extreme sexual
predatoriness of Western society.

Chuck Mosher's reply is an example of extreme cultural chauvinism.

By the way, I used to live in New Haven.  One Thursday night as I was
moving my furnishings from my old apartment to my new apartment and
driving the truck through the Hill section, I saw a black man attacking
and trying to rape a black women.  I had on the seat next to me a genuine
scimitar which I used to hang on my wall as a decoration (a Lebanese
Maronite friend of my father gave it to me).  I stopped the truck,
unsheathed the scimitar and sincerely tried to decapitate the rapist.  He
escaped (wounded).  The woman whom I brought to the hospital was grateful.
The rapist probably received strong negative conditioning against trying
again.  Explaining the scimitar to the New Haven police was amusing.

I am not trying to impress anyone with my machismo.  My father has in fact
accused me of being effeminate.  But if Kitty Genovese had lived among
orientals, she probably would be alive today.