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From: cm@unc.UUCP (Chuck Mosher)
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Subject: Re: Re: Martillo's Rape Cure
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Date: Mon, 26-Mar-84 13:36:45 EST
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Posted: Mon Mar 26 13:36:45 1984
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	This will be my last chance to respond on this topic for ~1 month
as our site is being pulled off the net to handle a sudden, acute loading
problem.  Let me say that my comment about Libya, "male-dominated, repressive,
inhibitive society" *was* a culturally chauvinistic statement.  However I do
feel the same way the Jim Dyer does when he states that our culture has been
much improved (I would say tremendously improved) due to the Women's Movement
and to all people re-examining roles and behaviors that have been taken for
granted for *too* long.  We still have a long way to go.  It is my hope that
ultimately we will have a world society where the rights and privileges of
all humans are equal and not based according to sex, race, religion, or any
other arbitrary criterion. 
	As far as extreme cultural chauvinism goes, I would say that the 
statement "no American woman dresses modestly" certainly qualifies.  As well
as the recommendation of adapting one society's behaviors (which are based on
a totally different cultural/religious milieu) to solve another society's 
problems.
	Good for you and your scimitar!  I also deplore the cases where women
(and men!) have been attacked in full view of witnesses where no-one has gone
for help (let alone hacked the attacker to pieces).  If everyone carried weapons
perhaps such things would not happen, but I do not like the idea of a society
where such extreme resorts were necessary.  I much prefer changing the concept
of "women as victim", both by raising women who do not think of themselves as
such (the role-playing process starts early and it's crucial) and by enforcing
*very* strict punishment for offenders.  One other comment - it is very 
difficult for "all the men to grab their weapons and hack the attacker to 
pieces" if the rape does not occur in public.  Most of them don't.

					Chuck Mosher
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