Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 (Tek) 9/26/83; site shark.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!floyd!harpo!decvax!ucbvax!ucbcad!tektronix!orca!shark!hutch From: hutch@shark.UUCP (Stephen Hutchison) Newsgroups: net.religion,net.flame Subject: Re: "Hell" in the Old Testament Message-ID: <656@shark.UUCP> Date: Wed, 28-Mar-84 03:26:46 EST Article-I.D.: shark.656 Posted: Wed Mar 28 03:26:46 1984 Date-Received: Fri, 30-Mar-84 00:35:35 EST References: <15@ssc-vax.UUCP> Organization: Tektronix, Wilsonville OR Lines: 22 I have to take issue with Dave Norris. Sorry, Dave. The Hebrew word "Sheol" doesn't and didn't mean the same thing as is currently understood as Hell. It is unclear where the Essene sect got their picture of a Hell which was a lake of fire and an eternal torment, but it is that picture, which Jesus quoted, that is the basis for the modern idea of Hell. Sheol was described as a sort of limbo and was very unpleasant but did not seem to be the place where the fallen angels and sinners were consigned. Note that there are very clear images in the early Christian doctrines of a place ruled by the Fallen, which was a fortress which Jesus destroyed in the hours He was dead. I cannot trace this back to an earlier Jewish tradition with the resources I have available at the moment. Hutch