Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 exptools 1/6/84; site ihuxb.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!floyd!harpo!ihnp4!ihuxb!alle From: alle@ihuxb.UUCP (Allen England) Newsgroups: net.flame Subject: Re: I think I know I can know, you know? Message-ID: <572@ihuxb.UUCP> Date: Fri, 30-Mar-84 12:08:33 EST Article-I.D.: ihuxb.572 Posted: Fri Mar 30 12:08:33 1984 Date-Received: Sat, 31-Mar-84 07:40:04 EST References: <6562@decwrl.UUCP> Organization: AT&T Bell Labs, Naperville, IL Lines: 43 + > The Atheist says there is no God. > The Agnostic says he doesn't think we can know. From Webster's Ninth New Collegiate Dictionary agnostic - One who holds the view that any *ultimate* [my emphasis] reality (as God) is unknown and *probably* unknowable. > Both positions are unreasonable because they claim to have more knowledge > about the topic than is humanly possible! > The only three positions that are reasonable are, "still looking" or "found > him" or "given up looking" with the last from lack of interest or too tired. What about the existentialist (and to some extent the agnostic) position "Why look?"? > Unless of course you A & A's out there think you can give reasons why God > doesn't exist or why we can never know if he does! Agnostics, existentialists and atheists have no reason to think God exists other than the possibly misguided beliefs of some people. ... > We don't insist on knowing all there is to know about any other topic > I think, why should we insist on knowing all there is to know about God? > Why isn't that just as silly a notion as about another topic? > An atheist may not FEEL that there is life after death, but I don't care > how he feels, what are his reasons for that belief? > Ken Arndt Why should there be life after death? What are your reasons for that belief? When someone makes the statement that "X" exists, it is not up to the listener to prove that it doesn't. It is up to the speaker to prove that it does! Allen ihnp4!ihuxb!alle