Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site opus.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!floyd!harpo!seismo!hao!cires!nbires!opus!rcd From: rcd@opus.UUCP Newsgroups: net.flame Subject: Re: I think I know I can know, you know? Message-ID: <294@opus.UUCP> Date: Fri, 30-Mar-84 21:01:32 EST Article-I.D.: opus.294 Posted: Fri Mar 30 21:01:32 1984 Date-Received: Sat, 31-Mar-84 07:47:32 EST References: <6562@decwrl.UUCP> Organization: NBI, Boulder Lines: 23 <> > The Atheist says there is no God. > > The Agnostic says he doesn't think we can know. > > Both positions are unreasonable because they claim to have more knowledge > about the topic than is humanly possible! The Theist continues to preach religion in net.flame rather than net.religion. His position is also unreasonable. But let's drop the religion for a moment and I'll flame about the logic. Relabel: atheist=X, agnostic=Y, theist=Z There's a general illogic here. The positions of Xs and Ys are labeled unreasonable because they claim to answer a question which is alleged to be unanswerable (or incompletely answerable). But then, the Z position is defended - even though it is an answer to the same unanswerable question! If you blame your opponent for use of faulty reasoning, you probably shouldn't expect to get away with it yourself. -- Relax - don't worry - have a homebrew. {hao,ucbvax,allegra}!nbires!rcd