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Subject: Re: Basenotes in Responses - (nf)
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Date: Fri, 30-Mar-84 22:34:31 EST
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uiuccsb!grunwald    Mar 30 11:25:00 1984

>/**** uiuccsb:net.flame / eosp1!lincoln /  9:05 pm  Mar 29, 1984 ****/
>> Doesn't news associated a reply (followup? what's your buzzword?)
>> with the original note?  Can't the new program be changed to
>> associate the followups with the base note (e.g. type something or
>> other to see the replies to this message). Would seem to make a lot
>
>One of the problems with this otherwise sensible suggestion is that by
>the time people get around to reading a reply, the referenced base
>article has often been purged from the system.  This has happened to me
>/* ---------- */

This is one of the problems that Notes fixed in way that has made a lot of
people complain. If a net response comes in, and there is no associated
base note to be found, a pseudo-base note is created with a title
"Orhpaned Response." Then, all in-comming notes are chained on to that
basenote.

   This allows all basenotes associated with the (unknown) article to
be grouped together. The complaints come from the fact that, since we
don't know the article title, any responses (replies, followups, etc)
made to the note are titled "re:Orphaned Response".

   Consider this note -- on out system, there are 9 responses (soon to
be 10). Even if the context of the base note can not be established, one
might wish to submit a followup to one of the other responses. Given
the structure notes uses, these will still appear together. Something
similar should be able to be done in News I would think. I don't understand
why people need to keep track of these things, that's what computers are
for. The structure of News dates back to EIES days (which is still used),
which also had that godawful problem.

   All that, and it takes less space too since each newsgroup is a set of
three files, not one file for each article in a newsgroup.

Dirk Grunwald
unversity of illinois
uiucdcs ! grunwald
grunwald.uiuc@CSNET