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From: tbray@mprvaxa.UUCP (Tim Bray)
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Subject: Re: Anti-Arab flaming - angrier still
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Date: Mon, 2-Apr-84 16:39:23 EST
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1. In regards to the Q'uran -

 Mr. Martillo managed to find a brief extract from one Sura which could
 be read as anti-Jewish.  Award him a gold star.  The second one, about
 humbling and tribute, expresses the fact that under strict Moslem law,
 only non-Moslems pay taxes - this system was actually in use for a while
 after the original Moslem conquest of the Levant and North Africa,
 immediately after Mohammed's death. Obviously it is neither practical
 nor applied today.

 It is mildly rediculous for a descendent for a descendent of Libyan Jews
 and a WASP former resident of Lebanon to be arguing Islamic theology in
 this forum.  My assertion remains:

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 The vast majority of traditional Islamic scripture, teaching, AND CULTURE, 
 is extremely tolerant towards Jews.  Historically, a Jewish minority has
 been safer among Moslems than Christians (not that this is saying much).
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 Mr. Martillo disagrees.  Neither of us is a real expert.  Go find out for
 yourselves.

2. Racism or not-racism

 Yep, Arabs and Jews are not merely members of the same race, but of the
 same Semitic cultural grouping within the Caucasian race.  So I guess
 the term "racism" is not technically correct.  How about narrow-minded
 redneck xenophobic ethnocentric bigoted chauvinist stupidity, then?

 To quote Mr. Martillo:
 "I am not implying anything.  I dislike Muslims explicitly.  They have an
  ideology which requires my subjugation."

 Fine.  That is not only incorrect but disqualifies you from making
 substantive contributions to debate on one of the world's great
 political issues - the Middle East situation.  And it still doesn't
 belong on the net.

 Tim Bray