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From: jj@rabbit.UUCP
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Subject: Re: Reagan and the economy, again.
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Date: Wed, 4-Apr-84 11:15:14 EST
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Posted: Wed Apr  4 11:15:14 1984
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Well, actually, Joel, I don't disagree with you as much as you
think.  <I do disagree with the usual ad-hominem bullfeces, of course.>

Two years isn't long enough, but at least you can see the effects of
an administration in the derivitives by then. <That's all you can
see, but at least it's some information.>  We are indeed still paying
for the end of Vietnam and the oil embargos, as well as for the
incredibly irresponsible social programs of the Johnson years.
In fact, that's mostly what we're paying for right now, with
our massive federal deficit that we can't do much about.

As far as the deficit, it is the next problem.  Right now,
the interest on the FD is as much as the current year's
deficit.  That's representitive of a system in uncontrolled
exponential runaway.  The problem is that there isn't any
good way to deal with it now, LBJ is the one who had to deal
with it, and all he did  was put it off a few years.
More taxes aren't the answer, as they will only fuel
the same problem (inflation/deficit) that they are
"supposed" to aid.

The only solution that I can see is an IMMEDIATE cut in all parts
of the federal budget, INCLUDING human services.  I don't like
that idea very much, but with human services running at
50% or so of the budget (including administration of them, etc) 
they must be cut along with everything else.  (There are some
very basic things that could be done to make such cuts nearly
unnoticed, except as regards the unemployed federal employees,
but labor will protect its own and damn the poor as usual.)



I AM sensitive to ad-hominem attacks, I figure that if someone
wants to disrupt, I'm not able to stop them, I might as well
either ignore them or drown them out.

Why do I support Reagan?  Well, his ecomonic ideas are 
better than anyone else's, even if he can't handle the deficit.
<The democratic line is STILL just pushing things into the
future.  I can't believe that ANYONE can believe it, or
not hear the contradictions inherant in it.  Look at history,
folks.>    I can't stand Reagan's moral viewpoints (a look
in net.abortion should make that really clear) at all, but
I think (and that's as close to certainty as I can come)
that economic collapse is more of a threat than the
fascist MM stuff.  <One can be resisted by individuals,
the other cannot.>

Cheers
-- 
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