Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site mit-eddie.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!genrad!mit-eddie!lkk From: lkk@mit-eddie.UUCP (Larry Kolodney) Newsgroups: net.flame Subject: Re: Reagan FLAME - (nf) Message-ID: <1537@mit-eddie.UUCP> Date: Tue, 3-Apr-84 21:17:30 EST Article-I.D.: mit-eddi.1537 Posted: Tue Apr 3 21:17:30 1984 Date-Received: Thu, 5-Apr-84 03:20:48 EST References: <6521@uiucdcs.UUCP> Organization: MIT, Cambridge, MA Lines: 34 Dear holt@parsec.UUCP, Among the many errors in your last message (which were too numerous for me to go over individually) was the following platitude: "Social programs have little if any expected return." IF SOCIAL PROGRAMS HAD LITTLE EXPECTED RETURN THEN CONGRESS, WHICH IS STILL COMPRISED MOSTLY OF BUSINESSMEN AND THEIR ALLIES THE LAWYERS WOULD NEVER HAVE PASSED THEM. Social programs certainly do have an expected return. We live in a society in which, like it or not, the economic sucess of any one of us depends in the success of all of us. A healthy economy require a strong consumer demand. The purpose of welfare programs is to maintain that demand in times of recession so as to blunt the deliterious effects of the business cycle. Student loans serve the purpose of promoting the creation of an educated workforce so that we maintain technological and intellectual growth in the competitive world market. The original educational assistance act wasn;'t called the "Defense Education Act" for nothing. Look buddy, if you really think that you got where you are today SOLEY through your own efforts then you are really quite naive. You were born into a society that made your education possible as well as the existence of your job and this network. If you lived in Chad and worked just as hard you'd be a starving peasant. What's the difference? SOCEITY. Think about that the next time you think that you owe nothing to society. -- Larry Kolodney (The Devil's Advocate) (USE) ..decvax!genrad!mit-eddie!lkk (ARPA) lkk@mit-ml