Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!akgua!mcnc!decvax!harpo!ihnp4!inuxc!pur-ee!uiucdcs!renner From: renner@uiucdcs.UUCP (renner ) Newsgroups: net.flame Subject: Re: Re: Do Russians ALWAYS lie? - (nf) Message-ID: <6580@uiucdcs.UUCP> Date: Tue, 3-Apr-84 22:28:34 EST Article-I.D.: uiucdcs.6580 Posted: Tue Apr 3 22:28:34 1984 Date-Received: Sat, 7-Apr-84 01:34:43 EST Lines: 26 #R:dciem:-81800:uiucdcs:36200122:000:1115 uiucdcs!renner Apr 3 11:13:00 1984 >> Has anyone read or heard the official soviet response/opinion of >> the collision? Not that it bears any resemblance to reality, I >> am just curious as to what it was. > With this kind of unthinking expectation that the Soviets must always > lie, how can we ever expect to achieve the kind of mutual trust needed > to avoid the nuclear winter? Wasn't there once something called "the > credibility gap"? Didn't it refer to the US government's statements? > -- Martin Taylor Soviet government statements have no correlation with reality. It is not that they *always* lie; they will tell the truth when it suits them. But if it serves their purposes to lie, then they will lie. There is ample evidence for anyone willing to look: KAL Flight 007 and Andropov's "cold" are only the most recent examples. As concerns mutual trust: if the Soviets want our trust in their words, they will have to earn it. Their words are useful only for the insight they may provide into the workings of the Soviet government; as information, their words are only noise. Scott Renner {ihnp4,pur-ee}!uiucdcs!renner