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From: martillo@ihuxt.UUCP (Yehoyaqim Shemtob Martillo)
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Subject: Re: Re: Martillo's Rape Cure
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Since I am still receiving random mail because of articles posted in
net.flame. I have changed my mind and am reposting this article to
net.flame.


This debate has twisted and turned long enough.

My original article was a reply to Brownmiller's contention that men
oppress women through rape.

I contend the oppression is probably an unconcious side-effect and in fact
men can oppress women in a society where rape is almost impossible.

Despite all the net doubters there is less rape in Islamic society.

Women can either be raped by strangers or non-strangers.

In traditional Islamic society women are always guarded by their male
relatives.

If a stranger simply tries to talk to a woman, he runs the risk of severe
bodily harm from her relatives.

If a male relative wants to rape a woman, he cannot because the Islamic
family is an extended hamula type family.  There is no privacy.  Family
member rape really only becomes possible in nuclear and near-nuclear
family.

All the ideological debate on rape is really peripheral.

The questions are:

	How is rape to be discouraged?
	
	How is the accused rapist to be tried?
	
	How is the convicted rapist to be punished?
	
I am willing to stop flaming on this topic if everyone else is.

-- 

                    Yehoyaqim Shemtob Martillo

   (At the narrow passage, there is neither brother nor friend)