Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 exptools 1/6/84; site ihuxx.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxl!houxm!ihnp4!ihuxx!ignatz From: ignatz@ihuxx.UUCP (Dave Ihnat, Chicago, IL) Newsgroups: net.flame,net.politics Subject: Re: Unions, onions, and other things to cry about Message-ID: <712@ihuxx.UUCP> Date: Fri, 6-Apr-84 18:36:36 EST Article-I.D.: ihuxx.712 Posted: Fri Apr 6 18:36:36 1984 Date-Received: Sat, 7-Apr-84 05:01:41 EST References: <2679@rabbit.UUCP> Organization: AT&T Bell Labs, Naperville, IL Lines: 96 Oh, boy,oh boy, oh boy. Have you ever hit MY flame button!!! Reactor subcritical. Withdraw rods...watch the pressure...Z approaching 1...CRITICALITY ACHIEVED!!! Ok, guys. Let's talk union. I live in Chicago, a town renowned for the strength of its unions. And I've become sufficiently interested to read of the early years, and what caused the unions to become necessary. They were, then, primarily concerned with social change and responsibility--it was neither fair, nor socially proper, for scalpers to sell $500 certificates to allow lumberjacks to travel to the logging camps, just so they had the right to BID their services to the hiring companies. (That's right, bid. Those willing to accept the lowest pay, got the job.) It wasn't fair or right to have workers use radioactive radium, or get black lung and not have any benefits, or choke their lives out in the lint of the cotton mills. And the only way to force the businesses to listen was the union. The labelling of 'management' and 'labor' was necessary, if for nothing more than to point out who was responsible; and so the mgmt./labor split. But times change, and so do situations. Workers today, by and large, are doing some job which requires some sort of specialized skill. You cannot, no matter how cheaply, replace a skilled electrician with an immigrant off the boat. (Unless he or she was an electrician wherever he/she came from...and is conversant with the rules in this country...and so on. This person has a reasonable bargaining position with 'management'; and the situation is far more exaggerated in the high-tech industries. (Any card-carrying computer scientists out there?) BUT...what, then, does a union do to justify its existence? Well, keeping in mind that change is inevitable--look at buggy whips at the turn of the century--they could drive through reasonable labor reform programs, targeted at retraining employees whose jobs fall prey to the tide of progress. And for those who cannot/will not retrain, how about a placement service? And helping management PLAN upgrades and modernization plans to allow those who are left to fade away through retirement or attrition?? How about union-sponsored training sessions for new technologies? And so on. BUT NO...people are lazy. If I made frannistans by hand for 10 years, I ain't gonna let no damn machine come in and take MY job. (My counter? Learn how to take care of the frannistan machine.) And NO--this could lead to reasonable management--rank&file discussions. Or, you can hold the company against the wall for ever-increasing salaries and benefits. And unreasonable fees. And stifling supression of non-union work. (Sounds like the guilds of the middle ages, and for a reason.) In Chicago, a busdriver could make better than $22,000/year. FOR DRIVING A BUS?? In a Chicago hotel, a convention--small and underfunded, being a Science Fiction volunteer-run affair--wants to put out a plate of bread and coffee. Cost? The Hotel & Restaurant Workers Union insists you must have a member in attendance, so it came out to about $2 per slice of bread, and something on the order of $30 for a gallon of coffee. You have to be Equity to be in this show...and now you can't act in a non-Equity show. And so on... Everywhere you see it--because of organizations without the guts and courage to temporarily refrain from demanding bread and circuses long enough to plan for the future, outrageous and ridiculous rules and charges are passed on to the paying public. Something that could be done, safely and easily, by one person in 10 minutes has to wait two days to a week for a TEAM of union workers to get around to it. I can't move a 50 pound desk down the hall to my new office. Why? The PORTERS union (I'm not sure--teamsters?) says so. What special skill does that take? I'm so damned sick of unions that it would take hell and high water for me to even TALK civilly to a union steward. Yes, there may be some industries that still need unions because of exceptionally low pay, or hazardous conditions; but by and large, the union organizations are bloated creatures that provide sinecures for 'senior' people with no skills while screwing someone who is skilled and trained, but happens to be new on the job...that artificially inflates rewards (pay and bennies) for trivial jobs, like bus and (subway) train drivers, to levels that far exceed the worth of the service being performed...that retards modernization and resists elimination of true 'deadwood'. Unions are like a powerful drug...valuable when used properly, they've become a scourge on American society. ARRGH!! I *hate* those bloodsuckers!!!! Insert rods...Z dropping...subcritical...shut down ECCS. You know what? That didn't even feel good. I'm so PO'd that I'm still frying...I'm gonna go make a pot of coffee, if the Hotel and Restaurant Worker's union rep doesn't catch me doing it in the office... Whatever happened to social change and solidarity, instead of benefits and security? Dave Ihnat ihuxx!ignatz