Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 exptools 1/6/84; site ihuxq.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!we13!ihnp4!ihuxq!ken From: ken@ihuxq.UUCP (ken perlow) Newsgroups: net.flame,net.politics Subject: Re: Unions, onions, and other things to cry about Message-ID: <843@ihuxq.UUCP> Date: Sat, 7-Apr-84 01:21:15 EST Article-I.D.: ihuxq.843 Posted: Sat Apr 7 01:21:15 1984 Date-Received: Sun, 8-Apr-84 01:31:34 EST References: <2679@rabbit.UUCP>, <712@ihuxx.UUCP> Organization: AT&T Bell Labs, Naperville, IL Lines: 37 -- I hope Dave Ihnat realizes that most labor in the US is NOT organized. Curiously, non-union plants tend to have lower wages and poorer working conditions than union ones. Wonder why that could be. AT&T employees get a nice bit of free long-distance telephone service. We all get it because the CWA won it for its members. Not even any grudging gratitude, Dave? Well, Dave has clearly never worked in a factory where some dumb foreman ordered him to do something unsafe. Sometimes you need a union steward to stay not fired and not dead. Bless em! Of course, I'm a yuppie now--make good bucks--great environment. And I don't do it for the money anyway. No, I can't say as a union would do anything for me here. But haven't any of you union-baiters ever worked for a living? I mean *WORKED*. Look at this: >> In Chicago, a busdriver could make better >> than $22,000/year. FOR DRIVING A BUS?? Driving a bus is a hell of a lot harder than hacking. Hacking is fun, ferchrissake. And if you fall asleep at the terminal, the most you'll lose is a file! Bus drivers hold hundreds (in Chicago, thousands) of lives in their hands every day. Their service is vital. And unlike computer jocks, they have hell to pay when they're late. Now, we computer scientists have a lot more training than bus drivers. Anyone can be a bus driver, right? Well, if length of training is the key, all good musicians should be millionaires. But that's life. It ain't fair, and it can be real degrading. AND THAT'S WHY THERE'S UNIONS--for one thing above all else--DIGNITY. -- *** *** JE MAINTIENDRAI ***** ***** ****** ****** 06 Apr 84 [17 Germinal An CXCII] ken perlow ***** ***** (312)979-7261 ** ** ** ** ..ihnp4!ihuxq!ken *** ***