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From: billp@azure.UUCP (Bill Pfeifer)
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Subject: Re: Do Russians ALWAYS lie?
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Date: Mon, 9-Apr-84 03:54:26 EST
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>	You mean communists and communism, Bill, not socialists and
>	socialism.  Surely I don't have to explain the difference.

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Yes, by all means, please do explain the difference.  The two terms are synonyms.
Karl Marx certainly never made a distinction.  The "distinction" was first
made by Lenin, when other countries did not join Russia in the communist
revolution.  Lenin called the other countries socialist, Russia communist.
According to the Soviets, there is no communism yet, only socialism.
(It's called 'Union of Soviet SOCIALIST Republics).
According to their line, communism is not possible on this planet as long as
capitalism survives.  That's why they say capitalism must be destroyed at
any cost, by any method.
If you think that's just a lot of nonsense, go listen to Radio Moskow once
in a while, especially to the daily rantings of Vladimir Posner.

Communism is usually just used as a label for left-wing socialism.
Right-wing socialism acts just the same.  Just look at what the National
Socialists' Ministry for People's Education and Propaganda in Germany
used to crank out!

	Bill Pfeifer
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