Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site fortune.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!we13!ihnp4!fortune!jones From: jones@fortune.UUCP Newsgroups: net.games.go Subject: Re: Counting inside a Seki - (nf) Message-ID: <2984@fortune.UUCP> Date: Fri, 6-Apr-84 23:03:16 EST Article-I.D.: fortune.2984 Posted: Fri Apr 6 23:03:16 1984 Date-Received: Sun, 8-Apr-84 01:14:33 EST Sender: notes@fortune.UUCP Organization: Fortune Systems, Redwood City, CA Lines: 31 #R:siemens:-18000:fortune:38000004:000:1007 fortune!jones Apr 6 18:08:00 1984 This example is from the Intenational Handbook and Dictionary which states that the four points, 'a', 'b', 'c', and 'd' are left vacant during counting and that black cannot count 'c' or 'd' as territory since the two black groups are not independently alive. Sounds to me like Scott is right that there is no countable territory inside of a seki. Any counter examples? A B C D E F G H J K 10 O a @ d @ O . . . . 9 b O @ @ @ O . . . . 8 @ @ O O O O . . . . 7 c @ O . . . . . . * 6 @ @ O . . . . . . . 5 O O O . . . . . . . 4 . . . . . . . . . . 3 . . . . . . . . . . 2 . . . . . . . . . . 1 . . . * . . . . . * White = O Black = @ ------------------------------------- Dan Jones UUCP: {ihnp4,ucbvax!amd70,hpda,sri-unix,harpo}!fortune!jones DDD: (415)595-8444 x 440 USPS: Fortune Systems Corp, 101 Twin Dolphin Drive, Redwood City, CA 94065