Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP
Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site iuvax.UUCP
Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!floyd!harpo!ihnp4!inuxc!iuvax!notes
From: notes@iuvax.UUCP
Newsgroups: net.games.rogue
Subject: Re: Questions - please help me! - (nf)
Message-ID: <260@iuvax.UUCP>
Date: Sat, 31-Mar-84 01:02:02 EST
Article-I.D.: iuvax.260
Posted: Sat Mar 31 01:02:02 1984
Date-Received: Sat, 31-Mar-84 10:12:11 EST
Sender: notes@iuvax.UUCP
Organization: Indiana University
Lines: 29

#R:stolaf:-159800:iuvax:9800008:000:1288
iuvax!apratt    Mar 30 22:56:00 1984

The scroll you are referring to is "scare monster", not "hold monster",
and yes, you have to drop it and stand *on* it for it to be effective.
When you stand *behind* it you will notice that monsters avoid it (they
won't step on a Scare Monster scroll; that's the root of it), but they
will just side- step it and attack you.

As for the rooms you mention, you have encountered what I
affectionately call a "party room".  Some of the creatures in a party
room are asleep, and some are awake, and the normal conditions (like
E's always being asleep) don't apply.  There are some ways of killing
E's which are awake that are less dangerous than others, but nothing's
definite. Also note that E's which *are* sleeping in party rooms can
*wake up* as you walk by them (unlike E's in non-party rooms).

Also note that party rooms can occur on any level (1-N), and the chance
seems to be about 1 in 40 or so of there being a party room on a given
level.  On lower levels, things get even worse: Nymphs are awake, and
the monsters are nastier in general.

I will mail you some suggestions for cleaning out party rooms. I post
this because the question is a good one for people who just got (or are
about to get) Rogue Version 5.x (?) or higher.

					-- Allan Pratt
				ihnp4!inuxc!iuvax!apratt