Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1+some 2/3/84; site dual.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!we13!ihnp4!dual!mats From: mats@dual.UUCP (Mats Wichmann) Newsgroups: net.micro Subject: Re: chip availability Message-ID: <423@dual.UUCP> Date: Sat, 7-Apr-84 12:13:44 EST Article-I.D.: dual.423 Posted: Sat Apr 7 12:13:44 1984 Date-Received: Sun, 8-Apr-84 01:36:55 EST References: <2262@ecsvax.UUCP> Organization: Dual Systems, Berkeley, CA Lines: 33 Interesting question, this. We have been bitten by this problem, as have most other manufacturers, I think. Parts are just not available. Almost everything is on allocation these days. The much-ballyhooed 256-k dynamic RAMS are only available in very small quantities, at outrageous prices, even though there is not problem with either technology or with manufacturing. The problem here seems to be that the chip mfgs. don't want to undercut their lucrative market for 64k drams, so they are withholding the 256k's. Topic for discussion: WHY is the supply of chips so short right now? If people were making chips at the rate they were a few years ago, there would be plenty of parts for everyone. My theory: most of the chip mfgs. got caught with their pants down in the latest recession. They were building along at a merry pace and all of a sudden, BANG, nobody was willing to carry inventory any more. Where most people carried 6 months or more parts stock, all of a sudden they were trying to pare down to only keeping this weeks' production requirements in stock. As a result, the chip mfgs. got left with a huge oversupply. They survived this, although a look at financial reports from a few years back will show that it wasn't easy on their pocketbooks. It seems that this time around, they are going to throttle the supply so that they won't get burned the same way if another recession hits - they will be building at somewhat under the demand so that if a slump hits, they will be building right at or a just a little over the demand. Besides, asupply which is less than the demand would tend to drive the prices up, right? As I say, only my theory, but it makes sense to me. Any comments? Mats Wichmann Dual Systems Corp. ...{ucbvax,amd70,ihnp4,cbosgd,decwrl,fortune}!dual!mats