Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site ganehd.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!akgua!ganehd!mp From: mp@ganehd.UUCP (Scott Barman @ Univ. of Ga.) Newsgroups: net.micro Subject: Re: Micros for universities. Message-ID: <153@ganehd.UUCP> Date: Sun, 8-Apr-84 01:28:33 EST Article-I.D.: ganehd.153 Posted: Sun Apr 8 01:28:33 1984 Date-Received: Mon, 9-Apr-84 06:17:07 EST References: <410@sri-arpa.UUCP> <246@intelca.UUCP> Organization: NE Health District, Athens, Georgia Lines: 27 >I agree with Ron on most parts of his message, especially about Universities >finding out that not only will students pay to use those non-prime time hours >but will out bid other students for accounts. When the university has a 30XX >that is bored stiff at 9:00 at night because it just finished expending >.000000001 CPU seconds in figuring out the days accounting info, should be >given something to do. Also not a few of these students develop useful >utilities that often become essential parts of the system. (This I believe >was the original motivation of Hackers, ie to emulate the gods, Systems >Programmers.) This would be great if the University's computer center has their collective acts together! At the University of Georgia, they are charging over $700/cpu hour for an IBM 3081. When you come down to it, how many of these "hackers" would go broke trying to hack? Very many, and quick! There are other problems that all boil down to that the computer centers must be willing to do this. From my understanding (from what I have seen), they shun the idea of students running rampant on the same system as all the accounting/billing/scheduling is done. I agree, it would be a great idea (along with the others mentioned), however, I do not believe in charging the students to use a university resource. This is like the library, it should be included with tuition! Scott Barman ..!akgua!ganehd!mp