Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!we13!ihnp4!zehntel!hplabs!sri-unix!Knisely@his-phoenix-multics.arpa From: Knisely@his-phoenix-multics.arpa Newsgroups: net.micro Subject: RE: Software Piracy Message-ID: <12060@sri-arpa.UUCP> Date: Fri, 6-Apr-84 11:18:00 EST Article-I.D.: sri-arpa.12060 Posted: Fri Apr 6 11:18:00 1984 Date-Received: Thu, 19-Apr-84 03:06:40 EST Lines: 50 A number of related issues are being discussed (and flamed about, raved about, etc) here. At the risk of adding to growing pool of half-truth and self justification, here goes. First, if I remember my business law (and its been awhile, got a lawyer hidden in this group?), then software piracy is not technically theft -- but it is usually a clear violation of the copyright laws. Now, no matter what justification you put on it, it is still ILLEAGAL to do that. If you feel the need to rationalize having done so by saying that the product was not worth the price asked, then I hope you are not deluding yourself that this made it any less illegal, and subject to prosecution. HOWEVER, there are a number of issues concerning the copyright laws and software licenses that are not so clear cut, and deserve thoughtful discussion, and the recent chain of items on multiple CPU licensing is one of those subjects. Software piracy is one of the hottest issues going, and I, like most, have strong, but sometimes mixed feelings about it. The idea that if the producer didn't bother to heavily protect the software, then he's being careless and its then ok to pirate it, is one that especially bothers me. I have a legitimate right as a purchaser/user of the software to be able to create archive backup copies for my own use. It has gotten to the point now that very little home software comes in unprotected form. About half of what I have bought recently is impossible for me to backup with unmodified hardware. Now, either I go out and spend a couple hundred dollars on hardware/software that will let me beat these (but the next ones ?) schemes, or I'm left vulnerable to the loss of a product I paid hard earned cash for. Too many producers have adopted policies which make it difficult, expensive or impossible for me to get backup copies from them, and I find that a real problem. And the problem gets worse every day, mostly because of the attitudes and actions of a large minority of people who, for whatever reason, either see no wrong in piracy or justify it or rationalise it. Now I am not in the software-for-sale business, I am a user; a user who is increasingly maddened by this situation. Yes, I think software is grossly over-priced in some areas, but noone is forcing me to buy it. If the software isn't worth (to me) the price, then either I find a new price, different software or I do without. I think that piracy is irresponsible and is damaging the industry for all of us. Ok folks, let's hear some discussion of how we can solve this problem. How do we preserve the rights of the user to legitimate copy capabilities, provide him a useful way to examine and try the software before purchase, how should industry determine realistic returns on investment, is there a technical/ procedural/legal solution to the pirating??? ...Dick...(Knisely.DSP1 -at CISL)