Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: Notesfiles; site uokvax.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!akgua!mcnc!decvax!harpo!ihnp4!inuxc!pur-ee!uiucdcs!parsec!ctvax!uokvax!emjej From: emjej@uokvax.UUCP Newsgroups: net.micro Subject: Re: Re: Small micro OS for Education - (nf) Message-ID: <3400042@uokvax.UUCP> Date: Wed, 18-Apr-84 10:36:00 EST Article-I.D.: uokvax.3400042 Posted: Wed Apr 18 10:36:00 1984 Date-Received: Sun, 22-Apr-84 08:39:13 EST References: <2006@ihnss.UUCP> Lines: 31 Nf-ID: #R:ihnss:-200600:uokvax:3400042:000:1364 Nf-From: uokvax!emjej Apr 18 09:36:00 1984 #R:ihnss:-200600:uokvax:3400042:000:1364 uokvax!emjej Apr 18 09:36:00 1984 /***** uokvax:net.micro / bbncca!sdyer / 10:12 pm Apr 14, 1984 */ >What this means is that if you're not careful, especially in a dynamic >multi-process environment, memory gets fragmented, and processes which >ran successfully at one point in time won't have sufficient contiguous >memory to start up. True, for Level One. (Too bad a CoCo won't run Level Two...) >Especially with the advent of low >cost hard disks, the additional system slowness of a swapping system >might possibly be worth the increase in flexibility and predictability. This is not a rhetorical question--how fast are those inexpensive hard disks? I quote from Robert Gammill's "Position Paper on OS's for Small Systems: the Unix Operating System," SIGPC Notes, v.4 no. 3, fall 1981: Many of the smaller Winchester disks now entering the market use stepper motors for head movement, providing average access times of 200 msec or more but keeping costs low. Others, using more expensive voice coil actuators, provide average access nearer 20 msec but at higher cost. Such differences will be very noticeable in Unix performance, since its performance under load is so disk access and main memory dependent....We are likely soon to begin hearing complaints from those who have had the bad judgement to try to run Unix on hardware unable to properly support it! /* ---------- */