Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site amd70.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!amd70!phil From: phil@amd70.UUCP (Phil Ngai) Newsgroups: net.micro Subject: clocked FF from PAL16L8 Message-ID: <4577@amd70.UUCP> Date: Fri, 4-May-84 02:58:56 EST Article-I.D.: amd70.4577 Posted: Fri May 4 02:58:56 1984 Date-Received: Sat, 28-Apr-84 10:50:45 EST Organization: AMD, Santa Clara, CA Lines: 21 Something I've always sort of wanted was a way to implement a edge triggered flip flop using a PAL16L8 type of device. Since the 16L8 only has an AND-OR structure in it (no clocked FF like the 16R8) this seems to many people to be impossible to implement. Well, I just did it, I think. I am wondering if this is new and novel enough that people are interested in hearing about it, or if it is just old hat to experienced circuit designers. (how about PAL hackers?) Why would you want to do this? If the choice is to use an external FF and you have to operate on the signal before putting it into the FF, you don't have to spend the two pins getting out of your PAL and into the FF. You also save all the extra pins on the FF that you never need like Q* or even worse, RESET and SET which you have to pull up. (plus you don't need to stock external FFs or read data sheets :-) [anyone ever get the pinout on a 7474 wrong?]) If the choice is to use a 16R8, sometimes you want several different clocks, while the 16R8 restricts you to one clock per package. BURN MORE PALS! -- Phil Ngai (408) 988-7777 {ucbvax,decwrl,ihnp4,allegra,intelca}!amd70!phil