Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site bbncca.ARPA Path: utzoo!linus!bbncca!sdyer From: sdyer@bbncca.ARPA (Steve Dyer) Newsgroups: net.micro.6809 Subject: Re: stuff from May *Rainbow* - (nf) Message-ID: <682@bbncca.ARPA> Date: Sun, 22-Apr-84 12:40:15 EST Article-I.D.: bbncca.682 Posted: Sun Apr 22 12:40:15 1984 Date-Received: Sun, 22-Apr-84 20:48:29 EST References: <3500033@uokvax.UUCP> Organization: Bolt, Beranek and Newman, Cambridge, Ma. Lines: 33 Frank Hogg's column in the May Rainbow may be taken as a bit self-serving, but I don't think that he is incorrect. For those of you who haven't seen the magazine, Hogg owns a company which sells 6809 software for both FLEX and OS-9. One of his big sellers was a special version of FLEX for the TRS-80 Color Computer. Naturally, this product is being squeezed out a bit by the introduction of Radio Shack's version OS-9. Hogg's point is that trying to squeeze OS-9 onto a stock CoCo is a bit like trying to put 10 pounds of potatoes in a 1 pound bag (at least I think that was his analogy.) For example, limited disk space (150 kb/drive) and correspondingly poor support from Tandy on how to cope with additional software packages given the limited space. Poor RS232 support (only 300 baud full-duplex, 2400 baud simplex for a printer). Poor design of the disk controller such that the CPU is halted during data transfers, thus mucking up any pretentions to multi-tasking ability. No support for any drives other than the R/S 35tk SS abominations. And, a choice between a small screen (16 x 32) OR using Hogg's own O-PAK software which must then steal 8K of graphics memory, thus preventing many OS-9 packages from running. Now, many of the driver-level problems can be addressed by 3rd party vendors, but let's face it the hardware is still minimal, and a CP/M-like system such as FLEX is less likely to expose such basic design limitations. So, in that sense, he's right. 64K and slow, small non-DMA disk drives all conspire to make OS-9 on the CoCo less likable and productive than it ought to be. OS-9 is still pretty neat, and I think that anyone who is at all interested in a cheap UNIX-like system should check it out. But for the average non-techie who isn't interested is shelling out a lot for additional hardware and software to make OS-9 truly usable on the CoCo, I would recommend sticking to RSDOS. -- /Steve Dyer {decvax,linus,ima}!bbncca!sdyer sdyer@bbncca.ARPA