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Subject: Re: Alternate languages? - (nf)
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Date: Sat, 31-Mar-84 00:03:18 EST
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ism780!paul    Mar 28 19:06:00 1984

> The average Commodore user is content with the language provided
> to him, BASIC.  People out there in netland, I'D like to know:

Anyone who is content with BASIC hasn't seen anything else!

>        1) What other languages have you seen used on the 64?
I have and use Commodore LOGO (actually not produced by Commodore - you can
tell because the manual is in English), and HES 64FORTH.  I've seen other
FORTHs advertised.

>        2) Were any of these languages readily portable to
>           other systems (if so, then which systems)?
Versions of these languages are available on most micros (Apple, Atari,
IBM -- actually FORTH runs on just about every computer around).  I don't
know how compatible the various versions are, though.

>        3) Where did you acquire this software and if you
>           paid for it: How much was it?  Was it worth it?
At a toy store, for about $50 each.  LOGO I recomment highly (unless you
expect to write arcade games or data base systems in it); 64FORTH is ok but
is a pretty bare-bones FORTH.

>        4) Have you seen any kind of Pascal on a C64?
"Zoom Pascal" is a `kind of Pascal' (no records, no pointers, no type
security, not much left...) from Abacus.  I looked at the manual and lost
interest when I saw that the edit/compile/run cycle required loading 3
seperate programs from that slooooowwwww 1541 disk.

-- Paul Perkins --
"Doctor, we've got to DO something!"
"I am doing something, Sara.  I'm thinking."