Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 beta 3/9/83; site callan.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxl!eagle!harpo!seismo!hao!hplabs!intelca!proper!callan!geoff From: geoff@callan.UUCP (Geoff Kuenning) Newsgroups: net.music Subject: Re: Tempered scales Message-ID: <129@callan.UUCP> Date: Sat, 24-Mar-84 21:57:35 EST Article-I.D.: callan.129 Posted: Sat Mar 24 21:57:35 1984 Date-Received: Tue, 27-Mar-84 00:31:07 EST References: <6262@decwrl.UUCP> Organization: Callan Data Systems, Westlake Village, CA Lines: 24 Chris Isbell says: > According to my calculations, the equal tempered major > third has a frequency ratio of 1.2599..., while the just third is > exactly 1.25. This is an error of 0.8 percent. (An error of a whole > semitone is 6 percent.) I have not taken any scientific measurement of > the tuning errors in modern woodwind instruments, but my subjective > experience is that this error *is* significant. Indeed, this should be significant. Piano tuners measure tuning errors as a percentage of a semitone, called 'cents'. My tuner tells me that the human ear can distingish half a 'cent' in tuning error (when comparing two notes); this works out to a 0.03 percent error using the units of the paragraph above. A 0.8 percent error works out to about 13 'cents'. My piano was recently 20 'cents' out of tune, and it was *GROSS* to my ear. Incidentally, I note that some of this apparently depends on ear training. As a modern listener, I find that most early instruments sound out-of-tune. I always attributed this to their being harder to play, but apparently this is actually because I have learned to prefer equally-tempered scales to "correctly-tuned scales". Geoff Kuenning ...!ihnp4!sdcrdcf!trwrb!wlbr!callan!geoff