Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site flairvax.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!akgua!mcnc!decvax!decwrl!flairvax!ellis From: ellis@flairvax.UUCP (Michael Ellis) Newsgroups: net.music Subject: Attentio Classical Musical Listeners - Eat Sh*t and Die Message-ID: <462@flairvax.UUCP> Date: Sat, 28-Apr-84 13:03:40 EDT Article-I.D.: flairvax.462 Posted: Sat Apr 28 13:03:40 1984 Date-Received: Sun, 29-Apr-84 09:15:06 EDT Organization: Fairchild AI Lab, Palo Alto, CA Lines: 36 As a person whose first passion was classical (ever make love to to Scriabin, or the Goldberg Variations?), I feel especially critical towards the limp wristed classical pansies out there who want a separate newsgroup. Are your gilden remarks so subtile that they must not be uttered amongst common mortals? Or do you fear that the Great Clod may step on you should your ludicrous pomposities be subjected to the Vulgar Lowbrow Sneer? Or is it that classical listeners suffer under the Great Disgrace that has plagued the style for centuries, and feel safer hiding in secluded places? Where are the black classical composers? How many women classical composers can YOU recall? (there have been so few (Germaine Francaise, anybody?) that atrocities like `composerette' never occurred!) Considering the huge amount of sweat that the jewish people have poured into classical over the centuries, how come it is hard to think of even one jewish composer? Remember -- Mahler had to renounce Judaism to attain the status he did! Is classical separatism on the net symptomatic of the bigotry that has characterized the style since its inception centuries ago? This world will probably blow itself up over the elitist forces that appear to be thriving at classical concerts. Perhaps it is feared that cross fertilization with other musical awarenesses might add life to the pure sterility that seems to obsess our life-hating upper classes. If you people will not converse among the public throng, then please, to munge Jelloisms, aryan androphiles, fuck off! WITHOUT producing offspring, that is... Thank you -michael `thrash for peace' ellis