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From: joe@fluke.UUCP (Joe Kelsey)
Newsgroups: net.news.b
Subject: Re: recordings in postnews, BSD version
Message-ID: <1535@vax4.fluke.UUCP>
Date: Mon, 16-Apr-84 14:36:15 EST
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Posted: Mon Apr 16 14:36:15 1984
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> The big problem with recordings in inews is that it doesn't work with
> vnews and nicely garbages the h*ll out of the screen. 

So fix vnews so that it does work!  I claim that you are trying to fix
something (postnews) that isn't broken!

> Besides, since 99+%
> of the original messages tend to go out through postnews, that is where I
> want recordings. 

If 99+% of the messages go through postnews, then they also go through
inews, since postnews calls inews.  So the recordings are already there!

> I see no sense in telling people while they are following
> up to someone what the topic is about. It is the new messages that need the
> reminders (this might now be as true for something like net.all reminding
> people about proprietary information as some Bell sites do, but that isn't
> a problem here). 

I don't understand this at all!  What are you talking about?

> I made the following assumptions:
> 	-  I don't need recordings in readnews or vnews

So fix readnews or vnews!

> 	-  Everyone uses postnews to post new articles 
> 	-  That is where recordings are needed

That is where recordings already are!

> 	-  People smart enough to write their own replacements for postnews
> 	   are smart enough that they don't need constant reminders on how
> 	   to use the net.

Such people should also be smart enough to figure out how to prevent
inews from playing the recording.

My main point still holds:  If readnews or vnews is broken (or if you
perceive a missing feature) FIX WHAT IS BROKEN!  Postnews is not
broken!  It doesn't need to be fixed!  If you want to claim that you
have a combination of changes to postnews and rnews/inews which moves
the playing of recordings from inews to postnews, I suppose that I
could accept that, but that is NOT fixing something that is broken.  It
is changing the functionality/adding new functionality.

BTW, if anyone wants to know how to stop inews from playing the
recording, use the undocumented -D flag to inews.  This flag is not for
user consumption and should only be used by softwear which calls inews
in a controlled environment.

/Joe