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From: guy@rlgvax.UUCP (Guy Harris)
Newsgroups: net.women,net.news.group
Subject: Re: net.women.only
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Date: Mon, 22-Aug-83 18:06:43 EDT
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Posted: Mon Aug 22 18:06:43 1983
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	I have seen over the last several years the growth of a number
	of widely accepted groups pressuring for the advancement of
	particular groups.  These groups have included racial groups
	(polish people, black people, hispanic people, amer-asians, etc)
	as well as womens groups, groups of the elderly, etc.

Poles are a "racial group"?

	It seems that any so-called minority (note that women are not in fact
	a minority in our population) can have some group pushing for
	itself, but everytime some white (unidentifiable genetic background)
	male suggests that white men in general should do likewise, all
	the other groups immediately shout "prejudice!".  Do not we as
	white men have the same rights as any other member of society,
	or must white men continue to be the second class citizens of
	our society, without equal rights in the judicial and political
	processes?

What?  How are white men second class citizens without equal rights in the
judicial and political process?  (And how does this connect with the
formation of organizations to support other groups?)  White males are, as a
group, better paid than other groups.  We (yes, we; as a white male I don't
feel like a second class citizen) have more opportunity for advancement, have
society more responsive to our concerns (if domestic violence were mostly a
case of wives assaulting husbands, you can bet there would be strong action
against it), etc..  The groups you refer to are shortchanged by society in
a way that white males are not.  As such, most attempts by white males to
set up such groups seem to be attempts to regain lost privilege.

One purpose of net.women.only would be to provide a forum for women to
discuss issues important to them without having to defend the importance of
these issues from the attacks of males not in a position to realize their
importance.

	Guy Harris
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