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From: ken@ihuxq.UUCP (ken perlow)
Newsgroups: net.origins
Subject: Re: Scientific Creation != Biblical Creation
Message-ID: <840@ihuxq.UUCP>
Date: Fri, 6-Apr-84 14:35:35 EST
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Posted: Fri Apr  6 14:35:35 1984
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>> [ihuxq!ken] "And the creationist time scale is in such complete
>> 	opposition to all of geology and astronomy that its proponents
>> 	are forced into the ludicrous argument that the speed of light
>> 	(and radioactivity ...) have been changing."

>> At least they are looking at testable hypotheses. But these "ludicrous"
>> ideas about overthrusts (hey, you don't need the faith of a mustard seed
>> to move a mountain - just add water and wait 50 million years! Further,
>> it won't leave any tracks! :-) and immediate rejection of evidence
>> because it goes against preconceived ideas - that's *not* science.

>> 				The Ice Floe of Larry Bickford

Ihuxq!ken here.  Sure changes in the speed of light are testable.
What do you think the Theory of Special Relativity was formulated
to explain, if not the constancy of the speed of light?  Yeah, I
know, it's "just a theory" too.  Incidentally, your recipe above
sounds like it would produce a whopper of a canyon.  Hold the pickle.

The immediate rejection is of models that postulate meta-scientific
forces which pick things up and sort them out by methods beyond any
empirical testability.  If your answer to the NATURAL PROCESS of
evolution is that god (generic, of course) did it, then I as a
scientist need not listen to you unless you explain how.  But you can
count on me as a citizen to catch every word you say.  You can shout
your creationism from a street corner, as is your right, but it has
no business in any schools I pay for, certainly not under the
name "science".
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