Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site utastro.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!harpo!seismo!ut-sally!utastro!bill From: bill@utastro.UUCP (William H. Jefferys) Newsgroups: net.origins Subject: Re: Balanced Treatment Act, part 2 Message-ID: <167@utastro.UUCP> Date: Wed, 18-Apr-84 12:54:44 EST Article-I.D.: utastro.167 Posted: Wed Apr 18 12:54:44 1984 Date-Received: Thu, 19-Apr-84 04:27:27 EST References: <45500002@uiucdcs.UUCP> Organization: UTexas Astronomy Dept., Austin, Texas Lines: 57 Ray Miller has treated us to a long article in which he blames the defeat of the Arkansas Creationism bill on "bungling" by Attorney General Clark. I think the situation is rather different. Attorney General Clark was, unfortunately, caught between a rock and a hard place, with an impossible case and creationists hounding him at every step. The fact is, despite pious attempts of creationists to depict the law as a "balanced treatment act" (the official title of the bill), there can be no doubt that it was in fact a blatant attempt to promote certain teachings of a particular narrow Fundamentalist form of Christianity in the public schools as "Science". It is one thing to pull the wool over the eyes of legislators; it is quite another thing to fool the federal courts. I believe that the attempt in Louisiana will be no more successful, and I hope that creationists *do* pursue the issue to the Supreme Court because I think that a nationally binding precedent would be extremely valuable. Ray remarks: > However, even though I support balanced treatment of both viewpoints, my >next statement my surprise you. I am not sure I support legislation to achieve >that goal. First, litigation is very expensive and is probably not the most >cost effective way of getting scientific creationism accepted. Second, the >courts are not the place to decide what is or isn't good science. Third, if >the courts decide incorrectly, the entire strategy backfires and creationists >face a bad situation legally that currently doesn't exist. So, I support the >CSLDF's defense of the Louisiana law (because of the legal precedent it will >set if it is defeated) but I have to agree with Dr. Gish who said he would >"not recommend" other states to adopt balanced treatment laws. I am not in the least surprised. A colleague of mine has informed me that after the Arkansas fiasco, creationists have looked again at the strategy of passing state laws and have concluded that it is a losing proposition. The courts are just not going to go along with it (hence Gish's statement, mentioned by Ray above). Instead, creationists have adopted a much more dangerous tactic (which is likely to be considerably more successful). It is to go after local school boards, which are even more malleable than state legislatures. If hundreds of school require creationism to be taught, it will be very difficult to overturn these decisions, since it will require an equal number of lawsuits. Consider, for example, a story that I read about how the sponsor of a "balanced treatment act" in Oklahoma was persuaded to withdraw his bill on the grounds that, out in the country, creationism was *already* being taught, and the passage of the bill would require them to teach evolution *as well*! So much for the claims of creationists that all they want is equal treatment. EVOLUTIONISTS, BE WARNED!! THE BATTLE HASN'T BEEN WON! IT IS GOING TO RETURN EVEN STRONGER, AND YOU HAD BETTER BE PREPARED TO FIGHT IT. THIS MEANS THOROUGHLY UNDERSTANDING THE METHODS OF THE CREATIONISTS AND BEING PREPARED TO COUNTER THEM PUBLICLY. -- Bill Jefferys 8-% Astronomy Dept, University of Texas, Austin TX 78712 (USnail) {ihnp4,kpno,ctvax}!ut-sally!utastro!bill (uucp) utastro!bill@ut-ngp (ARPANET)