Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 exptools 1/6/84; site ihuxm.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!floyd!harpo!ihnp4!ihuxm!gjphw From: gjphw@ihuxm.UUCP Newsgroups: net.physics Subject: Light as the boundary between energy and matter Message-ID: <939@ihuxm.UUCP> Date: Mon, 26-Mar-84 22:33:06 EST Article-I.D.: ihuxm.939 Posted: Mon Mar 26 22:33:06 1984 Date-Received: Tue, 27-Mar-84 01:47:48 EST Organization: AT&T Bell Labs, Naperville, IL Lines: 51 Just to reveal my naivete to this forum, I would like to raise the issue of the classification of light (photons). These thoughts were stimulated by some statements made during an anti-creationism presentation that I attended. At this presentation, it was pointed out that our traditional means of reasoning, through logic and mathematics, require that all entities be classified into groups or disjoint sets. Despite this, nature more often displays a continuous distribution of characteristics that can make classification difficult. One example is the archaeopteryx. This is a creature from the late Jurassic period which possessed many skeletal characteristics of reptiles but it also had feathers. Evolutionists might label this a transitional species while creationists assign the creature to one or the other group (reptile or bird) then criticize evolutionists for failing to supporting their theory with a transitional species. Homo Erectus provides another example (is it human or is it ape). Anyway, I wondered if this failure to fit a neat classification could apply to light as well. What are the characteristics of matter? Matter can be identified by its locality, rest mass, momentum, and optional electric charge, along with a host of quantum numbers. Anyone got any neat characteristics so that matter can be easily and unambiguously identified? Next, what are the characteristics of energy? Surely it is not sufficient to say that energy merely lacks the characteristics of matter (does not have locality, does not have rest mass, does not have electric charge). Any ideas that would allow me to unequivocally recognize an energy beast if it charged? Given these identifying characteristics, it may appear that light (photons) serves as a transitional entity. Photons possess some of the character of matter (locality, momentum, helicity quantum number) and lack others (most notably, rest mass). This transitional nature also clarifies the particle- wave dualism issue that seemed all the rage from Newton's time until Einstein. I have been taught that photons are energy packets that act like matter under certain circumstances (energy that looks like matter?). At one time, I thought that the emphasis given to the study of light merely derived from human psychology. People, who can, use their eyes as their major sense organ (over 90% of most people's sensory input is through vision) and light is very important for vision. However, if light lies at the transition between matter and energy, then its study would appear to have profound significance for our concepts matter and energy. Any thoughts? -- Patrick Wyant AT&T Bell Laboratories (Naperville, IL) *!ihuxm!gjphw