Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!harpo!seismo!hao!hplabs!sri-unix!MJackson.Wbst@Xerox.ARPA From: MJackson.Wbst@Xerox.ARPA Newsgroups: net.physics Subject: Re: Dean Drive Possible? Message-ID: <12309@sri-arpa.UUCP> Date: Fri, 13-Apr-84 10:38:00 EST Article-I.D.: sri-arpa.12309 Posted: Fri Apr 13 10:38:00 1984 Date-Received: Sat, 21-Apr-84 01:32:16 EST Lines: 15 The Dean Drive is well-known to be bogus. It is a simple nonlinear, nonsymmetric oscillator (the internal mass is pushed gently one way for a long time and strongly the other way for a short time). It slides along the floor just as you could slide a chair in "jerks" without touching the floor. The apparent effects depend on the existence of friction to negate the effect of the gentle forces, so that the strong forces dominate the average. If you suspended it from the ceiling it would hang straight down; if you put it in free space it would stay there. A non-zero coefficient for the third derivative would imply that momentum is not conserved. Conservation of momentum is pretty well established. Mark