Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83 v7 ucbtopaz-1.5; site ucbtopaz.CC.Berkeley.ARPA Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxl!eagle!harpo!decvax!ucbvax!ucbtopaz!bitmap From: bitmap@ucbtopaz.CC.Berkeley.ARPA Newsgroups: net.politics Subject: Thanksgiving & religion Message-ID: <421@ucbtopaz.CC.Berkeley.ARPA> Date: Sun, 1-Apr-84 00:22:34 EST Article-I.D.: ucbtopaz.421 Posted: Sun Apr 1 00:22:34 1984 Date-Received: Tue, 27-Mar-84 01:00:02 EST Organization: Univ. of Calif., Berkeley CA USA Lines: 26 Several letters were received dealing with holidays & religion. One interesting one mentioned some differences between Canadian & U.S.A. holidays. Apparently, there is a "Thanksgiving" in Canada, but it is held on a different day. Presumably, the tradition is different, too, but I don't know what it is. Another I thought ought to be put in the net, as it makes a good point (below). At least one reply that I tried to make died between here and !ccieng2--using the "reply" option didn't give a viable address. & The way I view Thanksgiving is that a persecuted religious group gave & thanks for getting safely away from religious persecution. What is & unique is that so many different religious groups fled here, that they & turned the Pilgrim celebration into a general, giving of thanks for & being able to successfully flee persecution. Those parts of the & celebration that were American have survived, the other parts of the & original celebration vary by religion. & From the view point that Thanksgiving is celebrating the right to & celebrate one's religion without persecution from a secular body, which & is what the Pilgrims were doing, Thanksgiving may be viewed as a & celebration of one of the first steps of separation of church and state. Sam Hall, UCB ucbvax!bitamp@ucbtopaz