Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!akgua!mcnc!decvax!harpo!ihnp4!inuxc!pur-ee!uiucdcs!renner From: renner@uiucdcs.UUCP (renner ) Newsgroups: net.politics Subject: Re: re: Re: giveaways - (nf) Message-ID: <6583@uiucdcs.UUCP> Date: Tue, 3-Apr-84 22:36:35 EST Article-I.D.: uiucdcs.6583 Posted: Tue Apr 3 22:36:35 1984 Date-Received: Sat, 7-Apr-84 01:35:24 EST Lines: 18 #R:ucbtopaz:-43200:uiucdcs:29200117:000:810 uiucdcs!renner Apr 3 17:46:00 1984 Tim Sevener has apparently swallowed the fiction that Social Security is a pension system. In a old-age pension system, your contributions are *invested* so that your money, plus interest, will be available to support you in your old age. In the SS system your "contributions" are immediately handed out to others; this is an income-transfer program, not a pension program. SS taxes fund a government welfare program for old people and surviving dependents. Because of this, they should be counted in the revenue base just as personal and corporate income taxes do. Any pension system run with the creative bookeeping methods used by the SS administration would be shut down and the directors would face criminal penalties. It's called a "pyramid scheme." Scott Renner {ihnp4,pur-ee}!uiucdcs!renner