Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site teldata.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!we13!ihnp4!zehntel!hplabs!tektronix!uw-beaver!teltone!teldata!tac From: tac@teldata.UUCP (Tom Condon) Newsgroups: net.politics Subject: Re: Old King Coal Message-ID: <311@teldata.UUCP> Date: Tue, 17-Apr-84 13:06:28 EST Article-I.D.: teldata.311 Posted: Tue Apr 17 13:06:28 1984 Date-Received: Fri, 20-Apr-84 01:08:15 EST References: <461@ucbtopaz.CC.Berkeley.ARPA> Organization: Teltone Corp., Kirkland, WA Lines: 55 , (sop to the blank line eaters--consider it a religious sacrifice) >> >..I don't think that it's reasonable to assign statistics like >> >"one-in-a-billion" to the possibility of a reactor being hit by an >> >H-bomb..." Isn't anyone out there familiar with nuclear physics? Radioactive materials are not at all like TNT or other explosives. If an H-bomb (or A- or any other letter bomb) hits a reactor the size of the explosion will not be any different from the same bomb hitting sand. Nuclear materials are not shock-volitile. The H-bomb will go off and scatter the materials of the plant it blows up over a large space, but unless it goes off in the core of the reactor the reaction materials will not "join" in the explosion. The area over which this radioactive material will be spread is the same as would be radioactive from the bomb anyway. 20000 years from now someone could complain because all of the other bomb craters were no longer hot but this one was still warm, no other difference would exist! If it does go off in the reactor (terrorists--don't blame the type of plant on them) it would still have to be of a similar type of material to make any sizable impression on the output. I think a little study of the subject at a text book level is in order for all sides in this debate!!! >> >> Surely, statistics exist on the number of coal-related (black-lung, >> emphysema, cancer [estimates?], mine-accidents) deaths vs. the number of >> nuclear-related deaths (mine accidents, cancer [estimates?]). Does >> anyone out there know where to look these up? Unbiased references >> are preferred, of course, if that is possible. You might try insurance companies. If they will not give you the actual facts, just ask for the rates to insure yourself while working in the relevant industry. Compare the rates and you will find the more dangerous job. >> >> It is unlikely that I'll be able to get ahold of an in-house paper >> written at Cornell University, so perhaps Mr. White would be >> willing to produce some of Dr. Pohl's arguments for us. At >> present, I am still of the opinion that coal is much more dangerous >> than nuclear power. Yes, please present some facts. >> >> Over to you, Martin. >> >> Sam Hall, UCB >> ucbvax!ucbtopaz!bitmap >> From the Soapbox of Tom Condon {...!uw-beaver!teltone!teldata!tac} A Radical A Day Keeps The Government At Bay.